WASHINGTON (AP) -- A Christian activist chosen by the White House for a presidential AIDS advisory panel is withdrawing his name under pressure after characterizing the disease as the ``gay plague,'' along with other anti-homosexual statements.
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Posted by tlack at January 23, 2003 09:42 PM
This is a joke, right?
Posted by: Skru Euwall on May 9, 2003 09:25 PMgeorge bush IS awesome!
Posted by: Matt on August 30, 2003 03:06 PMFuck you! Bush sucks!
Fuck Bush
Condemed are those who who knocked down the two buildings and killing 5000+ lives. Traitors and heroic are those who gang up with the people who wants to rule the world by knocking down many countries and killing uncountable lives.
GEORGE W. BUSH the hell with you and your party as well as those controlling you (mason / zionist). No justification has been made on the prove of weapon of mass destruction in Iraq despite your action pre-strike on Iraq was almost against against the whole world.
No explaination to the world as to what really happen to those people captured and detained by you.
Your visit to BALI - INDONESIA is NOT welcome.
You have achieved nothing but A REAL HATREATED TO MANY PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD.
We know these so called act of terrorists around the world (WTC , Bali , etc) are nothing but a real good conspiracies - well who could not have done it if one own the world media!!!!!
Peace
george bush is a terrorist
George W. Bush is the godsent. If only you peon liberalistic Democrats can grasp that fact !
Posted by: t on January 10, 2004 10:56 PMGeorge bush is awesome. Go pick up a book and educate yourself. Well, learn to read first, then go pick up a book.
Posted by: Bush for President on February 3, 2004 01:39 AMYou Liberals are idiots. How dare you call our president a terrorist and a murderer? Is that really how your mothers raised you? I would be embarrased to even be acwuainted with you.
Posted by: Somebody on February 29, 2004 02:15 PM*acquainted
Posted by: Somebody on February 29, 2004 02:16 PMThe most American thing you can do is make your opinion heard. That's one of the values that America was founded on. Only stupid people believe you should blindly follow the president. People who do that are mindless lemmings who would jump off a cliff if instructed to.
Posted by: dooder on March 1, 2004 06:58 PMI am a U.S. Marine who fought in Iraq, and i dare one of you faggots to come up to a U.S. Marine and say Bush i s a terrorist, if u did i can promise you that me or anyother Marine will break your face. I was in Iraq i saw the mass graves that were killed by Saddam i talked to many little girls that were raped by his army, u have no idea how many terror operations have been stopped and how many countless lives have been saved because of more power being given to the military to stop these attacks. You civilians have no idea what is going on for if you did our sources would be killed that is why you cant know but i guess only intelligent civilians can figure that out right?
Posted by: Marine on March 5, 2004 05:53 AMYou all are friken retards you have no lives and have no idea what it is to be a libralist. PLEASE get a life. Also stop complaining about the ecomomy and get a jog tpo make a difference!!!!!!
Posted by: Aaron winberry on March 17, 2004 10:32 AMPersonally I dislike George Bush, I disagree with practically all of the discisions he makes! I mean he doesn't even bealive in Gay marraige which is a terrible thing! Anyways I need to go...With that said LOVE & PEACE YOU PEOPLE!
Posted by: Curious Baka on March 17, 2004 10:33 AM****job******
Posted by: Aaron winberry on March 17, 2004 10:34 AMOK, I believe that George Bush should die...
He doesn't believe in gay marriage, which I believe is the same as being rascist. He has invaded Iraq when they didn't do anything to us. We should not re elect George Bush...I'm scared of what will happen if we do.
IF YOU THINK JOHN KERRY AND HIS SIDE KICK TED KENNEDY ARE GOING TO HELP YOU. THEN MY FRIEND YOU NEED TO HAVE YOUR HEAD EXAMINE. TAKE MY WORD FOR IT I'M FROM MA.
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Posted by: Christina applegate movie gallery on March 21, 2004 09:14 PMafter gay marrige whats next 3 people getting married because they love each other or a human and an animal, give me a break
Posted by: elephant herder on March 28, 2004 10:11 PMgeorge bush rules
Posted by: a on March 28, 2004 10:12 PMgeorge bush rules
Posted by: a on March 28, 2004 10:12 PMGeorge Bush is freakin' great!! He stepped into an office that had been screwed over by dumb ass clinton. Clinton lied to the public so much its not even funny. Ok, so you say George Bush lied about weapons in Iraq? WAKE UP!!! YOU MORONS, NYC was attacked, THE PENTAGON was attacked, terrorist are blowing up inocent people EVERYDAY. Should we sit on our asses like a bunch of damn hippies? Peace man, Love dude, gimme a break, yea peace and love are great, but when the world needs help, THE USA answered. It makes me sick how FREEDOM in the US has turned so many people into a bunch of philosophical Homo's. Everything that pops up everyone hides behind FREEDOM, like this Gay marriage crap, I am sorry, but if your gay, go live with your stupid life partner. But don't try to infect our SACRED TRADITION of marriage!! What gays are trying to do is SICK. YOu know I am right, forget all this "we have the right" crap. What you are doing is a perversion and the general public should not be forced to swallow your ideas like you swallow other things. To put it in scientist terms, the penis goes in the vagina, you may argue, but you KNOW, deep down, that that is the CORRECT way of life. We have to keep Bush in office, if we elect some dumbass like Kerry or Carrey or what ever his name is, not only is the US in trouble but most likely the WORLD. Kerry can't run our MILITARY nor our COUNTRY!!! All you people that hate bush, suck it up, he's here to stay, do whats best and not what you desire, in other words, wise up kids.
Posted by: American on March 30, 2004 09:22 AMgeorge bush is the MAN! fuck you liberal dooshebags, you fucking apathetic scum, all you want to do is sit on your ass and let the rest of the world solve there own problems. John Kerry voted for MAKING SOLIDERS HAVE TO BUY THERE OWN BODY ARMOR. my brother had to make the choise between going into hostile territory UNPROTECTED, or spending $5,000 he didnt have to buy body armor!
banning gay marriage isnt a racist thing-
GAYNESS IS A CHOISE- ITS THE WRONG FUCKING CHOISE- why do you think AIDS exists? huh.
i love my dog? can i marry her? why not i LOVE it??!!!
Saving lives from a shit head dictator that rapes and kills people and then steals there food money that the UN gave them IS A GOOD THING. when you pull your head out of your hippie ass you will relize that thats a GOOD THING.
WHAT THE FUCK ARE WE SUPPOSED TO DO? LET THEM ATTACK US AGAIN WHILE WE WEAR OUR GAY PRIDE RIBBIONS AND SIP OUR STARBUCKS AND LISTEN TO FUCKING SYSTEM OF A DOWN ON OUR APPLE IPODS LIKE A BUNCH OF HIPPIES????
being a liberal used to be a GOOD THING- our founding fathers were liberals! JFK the best president EVER was a liberal, but now all that liberal means is FUCKING LAZY APATHETIC HIPPIE
BURN IN HELL LIBERALS AND GET FUCKED IN THE ASS BY SATAT- YOU MIGHT ENJOY IT YOU GAY DICK SUCKERS!!!!
Posted by: anthony bruno on April 3, 2004 03:10 PMGeorge Bush is the Antichrist...He has ruined America! He made the biggest deficit in US history in under three years, and made more Americans lose their jobs than the eleven previous Presidents combined. He is anti women, blacks, Jews, homosexuals, children, the elderly, and the sick. He is a threat to world peace. VOTE KERRY '04!!!
Oh, and to the fucktard who says homosexuality is a choice, I hope you get raped by the taliban, you idiot. You doubtless think dinosaurs are still alive and that Christ speaks to Bush.
Posted by: Bob on April 7, 2004 10:22 PMREAD THIS.
Ok, listen up Democrats, Liberals, and Republican-traitors. George W. Bush is truely a godsend. Whereas you suck in anything the media tell you, you know nothing of what really goes on in the world.
To smilingyoukai- multiple issues. 1- Bush is NOT anti-gay. He has APPROVED gay marriage in multiple states, he simply does not understand how the homosexual mentality is formed. If you can explain how the human mind works and map out psychology, then I'll chalk you up a point, buddy. 2- Iraq did nothing to us, that is true. However, whereas you are sitting on your ass sucking welfare money from hard working citizens, Bush helped launch a campaign to save THOUSANDS of innocents in Iraq and nip terrorism in the bud. IF Saddam Hussein was not stopped, he no doubt would have continued to exploit and massacre his citizens, promote terrorism, and eventually spur world war. And you say nothing was done to prevent terrorism? Open your eyes.
To Russiarules- We all learned how to cuss in third grade, ace. That comment made you look real bright... factual support and everything. Just goes to show how brilliant you are to have come to the conclusion that Bush "sucks".
To Dooder- It is wonderful that you are expressing your opinion, seriously. I didn't hear you say why you dislike our president, but it is good that our beautiful nation allows us to criticize our president in public. Bush is protecting that freedom, as well as many other freedoms by fighting terrorism. Be glad that you can say what you just said... If you were in Iraq, you'd have been killed.
Finally, to my good friend Peace-
You present a good point... except its all wrong. You believe that terrorism in the East is a conspiracy? -and yet you talk of how the trade center tragedy was Bush's fault? Do you believe in the holocaust? Well, perhaps you should crack open a book sometime, read a paper, so forth and form your own opinions BASED ON FACT. Learn things. You make your arguments pretty poorly when you speak of terrorism being a conspiracy. Look at the families of the thousands that have died, the soldiers in Iraq, and the high government officials whose entire life is knowing what goes in in this world and protecting our country and tell THEM of your conspiracies.
That is all I have to say. God bless America, and may there be peace in this unfortunate world.
Posted by: Bush is amazing on April 20, 2004 12:11 AMfirst of all, oprah winfrey is the antichrist
second of all, you all need to learn something: if given over 10 years to hide weapons of mass destruction, even an idiotcould probably hide them.
if given a year to be told that they will be investigated for weapons of mass destruction, even and liberal/democrat/terrorist/iraqi could hide them.
1.He was the only US presedent to be caught driving drunk. 2.He did not lisen 2 the paper that said that bin laden was goin 2 bomb us. 3. he cheated aginst Al Gore. The votes were counted worng in Folorda. His bro is govener of Folorda. Duh, doesnt that make u a little bit suspiciuk. <(I know i speled that wrong.) 4.He stared a war with Iraq. What the hell did Iraq ever do 2 us, NOTHING! Hundreds of our people& Iraq people have died in a war that bush calls frendly! I do not call that frendly. I call that goin into a nother contry and killing people that never did anything 2 us. WE SHOULD BE TRYING TO FIND BIN LIDEN!!!!!! Not Sadam. And how the fuck do we know the Sadam has weapons of mass destruction. WE DONT! We do know that Bin ladin actuly bombed us. The only nice thing i can say is that Bushes ARMY got evil Sadam out of Iraq. And how do we know that sadam had something 2 do with 9/11. 5.I am not gay at all, but what is so bad about gay couples getting married. It is there life. Who cares if a man maries a man or a women marries a women. They should do what they want with their life. BUT I AM NOT GAY. My dog would would do a better job at presedent then bush. GOD HELP GEORGE BUSH
Posted by: S.M. From N.Y MALE on April 24, 2004 09:42 PMYou liberals better watch out. We soldiers will protect you, even though you despise us. We'll tolerate your "I support the troops but not the war," which is the worst kind of doublespeak. We'll help keep our nation on top of the world, even though you want to be the UN's bitch.
Just remember one thing.
Those with the power to protect also have the power to oppress.
WOW, where to start..
S.M. From NY MALE-Im not really sure how old you are, but listen up. It is extremely unfortunate that the attack on the WTC wasn't caught beforehand, but as national defense goes, it is extremely difficult to seperate false assumptions from accurate information. Look at pearl harbor for instance, Roosevelt had many assumptions of where Japan would attack and when, he was just unable to seperate fact from fiction. Im not sure if you know anything about the war in Iraq but let me break it down for you. The Clinton administration was the first to find with reasonable assurance that Saddam controlled, or was in the process of creating Weapons of Mass Destruction. After operation "desert fox" (Bombs over Baghdad..) the Clinton administration stressed that while some of his facilities had been neutralized they still strongly believed he had immediate access to WMDs. Bush becomes prez.. After the attack on the WTC and Pentagon (Peace, you are the only person on this forum I have no respect for. My uncle lost his leg in the attack on the pentagon, you can go straight to hell you motherfucking asshole.) Bush set an ultimatium for anyone harboring or promoting terrorism. Saddam Hussein Publicly offered 25,000 USD to the family of any man who would give his life in the destruction of the United States. Strike One. Bush gave Saddam an Ultimatium for ceasing his fundings, Saddam declined, furthermore saddam threatened mobilization on Kuwait if the United States threatened to intervene with "Iraqi Policy". As Saddam has already attempted to invade iraq once, this wasn't taken likely. With his ultimatium reached, Bush began operation "Enduring Freedom". If thats not enough reason for you then take into account Saddam is a war-criminal who has openly slaughtered Kurdish civilians in his acts of genocide.
Next we have "Bob".. The anti-christ statement im not gonna bother with. On the other hand im majoring in economics at Cornell right now, and id like to leave a few statistics with you
1. The GDP is up 2.8% since Bush's Tax cut.
2. Markets are up 45% over the last year
3. the povery rate during the clinton admin. was 10.5%, Bush's Poverty rate is down to 9.4%
4. Manufacturing is at a 20 year high
5. Clinton and Bush's unemployment rates after the third year in office are an identical 5.6%
6. The economy is "the strongest in 20 years"-CNN.com <-- a very liberal newsstand
7. We have the highest homeownership in history right now.
This is all after a crippling attack on the economy which was caused by the WTC assault.
And finally we have Curious Baka. Bush does not "hate" gays in anyway, he just naturally believes it is not right for two people who cannot produce any sort of off-spring to be bound in matromony. Just because you love something doesnt mean you can start a proper family with that thing. I believe in gay rights, but gay marriage borders on absurdity.
Posted by: I cant believe this on April 29, 2004 07:00 PMBush Rocks Stupid Liberals
Posted by: Robby on May 12, 2004 10:54 AMBush is awesome! He pretty much goes by the bible on things and Saddam needed to be taken out anyway. Oh and i think you are close with the oprah is the anti-christ but i think its Dr. Phil. Hey someone better than you learn how to freaking spell! Thats all I have to say.
Posted by: Matt on May 22, 2004 01:10 AMOh I forgot one thing Gay is wrong. Get out a bible and read leviticus 18:22
Posted by: Matt again on May 22, 2004 01:13 AMFuck you liberals, fuck you conservatives. Fuck you self-rightous people in the army who run here and there, do what you are told to do, do things that are just wrong and say that you are defending our country. Fuck those of you who have been called upon to attack american citizens who wish to rise against this regime. Fuck all of you idiots who pay more attention to football and basketball stats than to history and to what is really going on. A few of you talk about 'you take what the media gives you... blah blah', obviously suggesting a left wing media, while all that i see is talking about, 'freedom forever'. Fuck anybody who is interested in perpetuating retribution. Fuck all of you who are blindly follow rich blue-blood leaders to death in the name of honor and dignity. Your founding fathers would be ashamed that you bow down instead of rise up against this evil. You talk about ' those who have the power to protect..' Fuck that. Give all of us a gun and see how many terrorists fuck up our malls, our schools. Most of the military is used to have a presence in other countries, to support economic colonization all across the world in the name of 'democracy' and capitalism. Our government wastes more money than they know what to do with, it is ineffectual and since the industrial revolution has pretty much been molded to support and perpetuate the laisse-faire, manifest destiny bullshit that put us in the position that we are in today; slavery never ended, they just quit segregating and now it is the poor eaten by the rich while the stupid ass white trash conservative pussies and gi-joes rationalize the actions of a bunch of greedy assholes and try and make everyone who disagrees and wants to speak out that they are terrorists or stupid or something. every revolutionary was once considered an enemy. washington was hated on by the king of england. You fucking idoiots who keep calling people hippy.. god damn right im a hippy, and so is everyone else who does not have some fucked up sexual problem.. like, WE NEED TO STOP ATTACKING EACH OTHER> look at the angst and hate in this forum; of fucking course we cant get along with other countries, so many of us act like 10 year olds who can not think beyond what is covered over and over again by cnn. get a clue, tune in turn on and drop out mother fuckers.
Posted by: iixv on May 26, 2004 11:41 PMim 15 and my dad is a marine. he is willing to fight for your fredom you liberal sons of bitches. He is willign to die for you, and he doenst even know you. Don't say that you support the troops but don't support the war. Thats bullshit do both or none at all. If you dont support the war then you dont support the troops fighting in it. We are in a great country led by a great leader, President Bush. The great thing about our country is we are free, thanks to George Bush and people like my dad. Some of you need to earn that freedom instead of sitting on your ass. Learn to respect our military by respecting our Commander in Chief.
Posted by: marines son on May 30, 2004 11:10 PMThey are not protecting us, they are being used as tools for a bunch of royalty to manipulate world economies and governments. Washington got shit when he opposed britain and lots of americans were killed because they would not house british, french and spanish soldiers. Thousands of people died because some rich people wanted to keep slavery around. We turn to war and conquest because the people who really call the shots are sneaky greedy and quite unamerican by my understanding of the meaning, of what our country supposedly stands for, what our founding fathers fought for. Military strength does not a country make; there is an intellectual, cultural battle going on and the people on the front lines are called unpatriotic and other less pleasant things. People like you empower people like him (dubya) to do whatever they please, in our names, with no repercussions. Stand together, raise your voice, tell the truth.
Posted by: iixv on June 1, 2004 02:37 AMlook you fag if you think thy arent protecting us then you can go to hell. how dare you call my dad unpatriotic u son of a bitch. You should have seen iraq before people like my Dad went in there to restore peace. DId you know that saddam and his army were raping little girls anfd were gettign away with it? Our country can no just stand back and watch people like him do that. we need to protect the world. How would you like your daughter to be raped by a man? You need to learn respect for our soldiers and for our president. So i say fuck you and your bullshit about "speaking the truth" you dotn know the truth
Posted by: marines son on June 1, 2004 11:07 PMoh and by the way leave our country if you dont like it you dont have to be here its freedom and you get tht freedom from the military
Posted by: marines son on June 1, 2004 11:44 PMi wonder how many little girls have been raped by american soldiers? .. hm.. vietnam.. um.. cambodia.. who cares, right?
we invaded another country, make a constitution for them, give them a flag with the colors of a nation that they dislike, take over their economy and we call it democracy. it is economic mercantilism, it is people dying for capitolism. You say, 'we need to protect the world' \-0- what about all of the fucking americans who are getting raped by the criminal justice system and tax system? what about all of the homeless people, the kids who are abused by their parents and all of the people being exploited? why the fucking hell do you think we need to police the world when we can't even take care of our own people. if we are going to 'protect the world', we cant do it by invading countries because of ideological differences; so fucking what, they dont do it the way we do it? our way is fucked too, and yes those people who were directly affected by saddam, or whoever had it rough. We continue to send troops all over the world, we demand a military presence all over the place, and we look like fucking facist pigs. We attack other countries for doing shit that we do (yes, dubya started up nuke manufacturing again); we go attack iraq, say 'you cant just invade kuwait because you have different ways of living, that is not democratic'.. our country is being sold piece by piece to the highest bidder, you ahve to pay to get your views across to officials and even more if you need to actually do anything. money rules this country; she has cum stains on her face and dress from the last 30 years of being the world's bitch and we need to stand up and take responsibility for stupid assholes like you who perpetuate the bullshit that has led up to our current situation.
You are a stupid fucker if you think that we get our freedom from the military. the military oppresses people, by order of the president. I do not deny that there have been times when our armed forces have been called forth to protect our country; In fact, i am grateful that we do have men and women willing to protect this country. However, for the most part they just enable our leaders to do whatever they like.. Look beneath the surface, kid. Ask your dad. If he is one of the good ones, he will tell you that our governement is out of control, and that dissidents founded this country. dissidents like myself, and like you, if you turn from the dark, right wing...
oh, and by the way,
you sing like the narcoleptic beer slut
Anti-flag
Anatomy Of Your Enemy
10 easy steps to create an enemy and start a war:
Listen closely because we will all see this weapon used in our lives.
It can be used on a society of the most ignorant to the most highly educated.
We need to see their tactics as a weapon against humanity and not as truth.
First step: create the enemy. Sometimes this will be done for you.
Second step: be sure the enemy you have chosen is nothing like you.
Find obvious differences like race, language, religion, dietary habits
fashion. Emphasize that their soldiers are not doing a job,
they are heartless murderers who enjoy killing!
Third step: Once these differences are established continue to reinforce them
with all disseminated information.
Fourth step: Have the media broadcast only the ruling party's information
this can be done through state run media.
Remember, in times of conflict all for-profit media repeats the ruling party's information.
Therefore all for-profit media becomes state-run.
Fifth step: show this enemy in actions that seem strange, militant, or different.
Always portray the enemy as non-human, evil, a killing machine.
Sixth step: Eliminate opposition to the ruling party.
Create an "Us versus Them" mentality. Leave no room for opinions in between.
One that does not support all actions of the ruling party should be considered a traitor.
Seventh step: Use nationalistic and/or religious symbols and rhetoric to define all actions.
This can be achieved by slogans such as "freedom loving people versus those who hate freedom."
This can also be achieved by the use of flags.
Eighth step: Align all actions with the dominant deity.
It is very effective to use terms like, "It is god's will" or "god bless our nation."
Ninth step: Design propaganda to show that your soldiers
have feelings, hopes, families, and loved ones.
Make it clear that your soldiers are doing a duty; they do not want or like to kill.
Tenth step: Create and atmosphere of fear, and instability
and then offer the ruling party as the only solutions to comfort the public's fears.
Remembering the fear of the unknown is always the strongest fear.
We are not countries. We are not nations. We are not religions.
We are not gods. We are not weapons. We are not ammunition. We are not killers.
We will NOT be tools.
Mother fuckers
I will not die
I will not kill
I will not be your slave
I will not fight your battle
I will not die on your battlefield
I will not fight for your wealth
I am not a fighter
I am a human being!!!
Preisdent Bush is helping those that are homeless and helps them to gt jobs. You cannot stop all crime in one spot. We will not be a greedy country and only try to fix what is right here, we will try to fix what is right all around the world. Many kids are abused by there parents each day and we have numerous charities and government agencies trying to help these kids and get them into loving homes. Our government is not out of control. I aasked my dad and every marine and sailor that i see on base. They all say they are not opressing people, but are trying to help people. If you were not such a dumbass you would have heard of the national guard. They protect our homeland to keep you safe, along with the rest of our military. I don't see you trying to do anyhting to make our country better. You are the most unpatriotic person i have ever talked to. You don't understand what patriotism is. We do not attack countries for doing shit that we do. We do not want terrorists liek saddam to take control in the world with weapons of mass distruction. We told Saddam that he had time to back out of Kuwait, and he didnt back out. Our country is not led by money, and we just do the right thing. How dare you call our country the "worlds bitch." Our whole army does not rape little girls, and our president especially doesnt. Those in our military who have ever deserve to go to hell. Our country will stand strong, and will fight through hard times when unpatriotic people like you try to bring our country down.
By the way, my dad is not just one of the good ones, he is the best one. Every marine, solider, sailor, and airman who fights for our country and believes in our country is the best.
Posted by: marines son on June 2, 2004 03:54 PMyou say "i will not die on your battlefield" because you are a coward. Are you scared of death? Dying for your country is an honor you coward.
Posted by: mariens son on June 2, 2004 03:55 PMwhat about the gays whose partners are dying of very treatable illnesses and they cant do a thing about it? they dont have the right to sign for medical treatment if the sick partner isnt in the condition to sign. how would you like it if your husband or wife was dying and you couldnt do anything?i salute our soldiers and appreciate very much what they are doing to help iraq, and if i died and was a soldier in iraq, at least it wouldnt be in vain. i would be helping my country, and my world. i dont really know about bush as a person or as a leader but i strongly dissagree with him on that point. also, its great to be a christian but i think its a little unconstitutional to bring it into the white house. as the first catholic president, John F. Kennedy believed "in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute." go to church! read the bible! thats great! i really encourage it. but don't bring the bible to the oval office and use it to govern a society of atheists, muslims, buddhists, catholics, gays, straights, and everyone else! please!
Posted by: dreemer on June 2, 2004 04:31 PMI respect that you ae not a coward and you salute our troops. however, i disagree with you about the homosexual issue. As you said about Christians, you should read Leviticus 18:22. It states "Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind, it is abomination." This country has laws and these laws we must keep. A man shalt not marry another man, and a woman shalt not marry another woman. What these people are doing is killing our country. Homosexuals are having sexual intercourse and contracting diseases and then some spread it to the opposite sex. I respect your opinion but i strongly disagree as a Christian.
Posted by: marines son on June 2, 2004 04:41 PMfair enough. different strokes.
Posted by: dreemer on June 2, 2004 05:23 PMi agree with "marines son." iixv is a coward. You have no repect for our nation. You have no right to criticize the military and the troops. You should especially not call them unpatriotic. Learn your history andsee how the miloitary helps you and saves you. Move to Iraq if you dont like our government. And dont tell me that since we helped them to create new government that you dont want to move there because you think the new government if "corrupted." You werent there during the regime before we helped Iraq.
Posted by: chuck on June 6, 2004 10:20 PMYou didnt want to move there during the regime before we helped Iraq*
Posted by: chuck on June 6, 2004 10:21 PMFuck you , you ignorant, blind sheep. I am not going to bother writing anything else on this board until there is some actual, intelligent conversation. Calling me a coward because i denounce our fucked up federal government, because i fucking hate our military-industrial MONSTER and because i do not believe that everything that is done 'in the name of america' is great or that our soldiers are protecting us by being a tool of the FUCKED federal government to impose its motherfucking RIGHT WING, conservative NEO FACIST RELIGIOUSLY FUNDIMENTAL BULLSHIT CAPITALISTIC, COMMERCIALIZED BULLSHIT PATRIOTISM TO STUPID FUCKERS WHO WOULD BE LEAD BLINDLY AND WHO WOULD DIE FOR THINGS THAT THEY DO NOT UNDERSTAND, OR WHO WOULD ACCEPT MONEY AND SAY 'I AM DOING MY JOB, I AM DEFENDING OUR COUNTRY' AS THEY SHOW THE MORAL FORTITUDE OF A FUCKING WORM IN NOT STANDING UP AND SAYING 'HEY THIS IS FUCKED UP' ==- THOSE FUCKS, YOUR STINKING ROTTEN MOTHERS AND ALL OF YOUR KIND ARE THE FUCKING BUGS CRAWLING ON THE GENITALS OF THIS COUNTRY. Get some balls, fucking STAND UP AND SPEAK TRUE. DOnt let this happen, you fuckin pig. And while we are at it, FUCK REGAN and his FUCKING PARADE WHICH COST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE EVEN MORE MONEY. He fucked the average man over, and aided in handing america, on a platter, to multinational corps and basically sold out, but stupid fucks (like you, i suspect) are on tv, all fucking week talking about 'its such a fucking bad thing that this old asshole died' and such. Get some balls, and fuck the PC BS. I know lots of people who are afraid to say the word 'black' in front of an African American. They are confused by political correctness and dont want to offend anyone. That is understandable, because they did nothing to you. Do some fucking reasearch; unless you or your family brings in over a million a year, it is quite likely that Bush and his fucking Evil empire has his fangs in you. He lies to stupid white trash assholes, he throws the votes of a good many African Americans out and lets our friends from Mexico, China, and many other places get raped by the same corps and rules and such that are fucking raping our country. Open you fucking eyes, fucking learn a bit before you start spouting the fucking idiot rhetoric that you learned from ABC and CBS and NBC and CNN and try to make a difference, instead of flaming people for using their fucking first amendment rights. People like you are the type of people who i would like to bash with a fucking lead pipe in the head were i to get in a discussion with you on the street. Patriotism does not mean, 'ACT LIKE YOUR GOVERNMENT IS GREAT, EVEN WHEN IT HAS A SHOTGUN UP YOUR ASS." it does not mean 'SPEAK, LIKE A PUPPET BECAUSE YOU DONT WANT THEM TO PULL THE TRIGGER'. Being a patriot in america these days is a labor of love; i may not be the best, but i do love our country as much as i fear our government. Fuck off. Dont be afraid to use the words 'THIEF', 'LIAR' or 'SELLOUT PUSSY BITCH' in relation to our president. Respect the office, but FUCK THE MAN WHO USES IT TO UNDERMINE THE WAY THAT IT WAS MEANT TO WORK. 3 BRANCHES, NOT 1 . 3. NOT 1. THIS IS NOT A FUCKING MONARCHY. HE IS NOT OUR KING. PISS ON REGAN, AND FUCK BUSH. IT IS NOT A DEMOCRACY WHEN BASTARDS LIKE THAT SELL US LIKE LIVESTOCK.
Posted by: iixv on June 12, 2004 10:19 AMFuck you , you ignorant, blind sheep. I am not going to bother writing anything else on this board until there is some actual, intelligent conversation. Calling me a coward because i denounce our fucked up federal government, because i fucking hate our military-industrial MONSTER and because i do not believe that everything that is done 'in the name of america' is great or that our soldiers are protecting us by being a tool of the FUCKED federal government to impose its motherfucking RIGHT WING, conservative NEO FACIST RELIGIOUSLY FUNDIMENTAL BULLSHIT CAPITALISTIC, COMMERCIALIZED BULLSHIT PATRIOTISM TO STUPID FUCKERS WHO WOULD BE LEAD BLINDLY AND WHO WOULD DIE FOR THINGS THAT THEY DO NOT UNDERSTAND, OR WHO WOULD ACCEPT MONEY AND SAY 'I AM DOING MY JOB, I AM DEFENDING OUR COUNTRY' AS THEY SHOW THE MORAL FORTITUDE OF A FUCKING WORM IN NOT STANDING UP AND SAYING 'HEY THIS IS FUCKED UP' ==- THOSE FUCKS, YOUR STINKING ROTTEN MOTHERS AND ALL OF YOUR KIND ARE THE FUCKING BUGS CRAWLING ON THE GENITALS OF THIS COUNTRY. Get some balls, fucking STAND UP AND SPEAK TRUE. DOnt let this happen, you fuckin pig. And while we are at it, FUCK REGAN and his FUCKING PARADE WHICH COST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE EVEN MORE MONEY. He fucked the average man over, and aided in handing america, on a platter, to multinational corps and basically sold out, but stupid fucks (like you, i suspect) are on tv, all fucking week talking about 'its such a fucking bad thing that this old asshole died' and such. Get some balls, and fuck the PC BS. I know lots of people who are afraid to say the word 'black' in front of an African American. They are confused by political correctness and dont want to offend anyone. That is understandable, because they did nothing to you. Do some fucking reasearch; unless you or your family brings in over a million a year, it is quite likely that Bush and his fucking Evil empire has his fangs in you. He lies to stupid white trash assholes, he throws the votes of a good many African Americans out and lets our friends from Mexico, China, and many other places get raped by the same corps and rules and such that are fucking raping our country. Open you fucking eyes, fucking learn a bit before you start spouting the fucking idiot rhetoric that you learned from ABC and CBS and NBC and CNN and try to make a difference, instead of flaming people for using their fucking first amendment rights. People like you are the type of people who i would like to bash with a fucking lead pipe in the head were i to get in a discussion with you on the street. Patriotism does not mean, 'ACT LIKE YOUR GOVERNMENT IS GREAT, EVEN WHEN IT HAS A SHOTGUN UP YOUR ASS." it does not mean 'SPEAK, LIKE A PUPPET BECAUSE YOU DONT WANT THEM TO PULL THE TRIGGER'. Being a patriot in america these days is a labor of love; i may not be the best, but i do love our country as much as i fear our government. Fuck off. Dont be afraid to use the words 'THIEF', 'LIAR' or 'SELLOUT PUSSY BITCH' in relation to our president. Respect the office, but FUCK THE MAN WHO USES IT TO UNDERMINE THE WAY THAT IT WAS MEANT TO WORK. 3 BRANCHES, NOT 1 . 3. NOT 1. THIS IS NOT A FUCKING MONARCHY. HE IS NOT OUR KING. PISS ON REAGAN, AND FUCK BUSH. IT IS NOT A DEMOCRACY WHEN BASTARDS LIKE THAT SELL US LIKE LIVESTOCK.
Posted by: iixv on June 12, 2004 10:20 AMTo Mr. iixv,
Listen I am really proud of you, your use and grasp of the word fuck is astounding. Truly there is none more gifted in the eloquence of that word. Also your ability to spout out Anti-Flag and all their idealisms is quite impressive. You want to talk about brainwashing and mindless belief? Pull off your headphones long enough to take a long hard look at yourself in the mirror. Just because its not the government doing it to you, doesn't mean its not happening.
Also, your use of history to refute others arguements is disgusting and vile. Whoever told you the phrase 'history is doomed to repeat itself' should be slapped across the face. You have taken the very essence of that phrase and twisted and distorted it until it fits your purpose (much like you claim our government does to its people, hmmm) George Santayana would be horrified at you, you take various "puzzle pieces" from history and try to cram it into your hole to make it fit. You wanna talk about the American Revolution? idolize George Washington as an American hero, fine, he was; but at least get the story straight. The whole story the American Revolution is about an opressed people rising up against an oppressive king, and don't think that we weren't helped by outside countries in doing it. Under these circumstances, the situation is not all together to far fetched from what is going on in Iraq right now. And, Mr. History Buff, consider back to more recent events like World War I. The whole world knew and called the Balkan states "The Powder Keg of Europe" because they knew the loyalties and conditions down there would, if offset, throw the entire continent of Europe into a huge war. What happened? Exactly that! Iraq, and all the Arabian countries with their vast oil supplies are the "Balkan States" of the 21st century. You want to tell us to open our eyes, find the "real" information and not what the government is force feeding us? I would love to know where you claim to have found this information, do you fly your stealth plane over to Iraq and check things out over there? No, you sit in your house with you cd player and come up with these bizarre conspiracy theories and then distort all the events around you to fit your purpose. You need to put down your '1984's' and your 'farenheit 451's' and take a look around bro. Make your assumptions on what you can see and prove, not on what you hypothetically think could happen under certain circumstances that might not actually exist.
Posted by: Bruno on June 13, 2004 10:04 AM"conservative NEO FACIST RELIGIOUSLY FUNDIMENTAL BULLSHIT CAPITALISTIC" -iixv
Sorry pal, I couldn't just let this one slide. You do realize that Fascism and Capitalism are both forms of government and being so, cannot be used together to describe someone's governmental stance? Now the religiously fundamental part I'm not gonna touch, thats your opinion (wrong as it is). Fascism is a system of government marked by the centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent and blind nationalism and racism. It is also the direct opposite of our government, so basically as long as we keep voting for our president, keep even a hint of democracy in our country, and keep our 'states rights' we will never be fascists; as much as you might like us to be. Now then, Capitalism is an economic system in which the means of production and distribution are privately or corporately owned and development is proportionate to the accumulation and reinvestment of profits gained in a free market. You can't be Capitalistic and and Fascist, because they are fundamentally different, they are oxymorons. In Fascism the government controls everything, including the economy. Capitalism is a system of economy that is controled by the businessmen. So, basically, you really should learn what these things are before you go spouting off what right wing so and so's really are. You need to learn your Voltaire before you quote it!
Oh, and you spelled both 'Fascism' and 'fundamental' wrong.
Posted by: Bruno on June 13, 2004 06:31 PMFirst of all iixv, you are not only a coward, but you are also stupid. You don't even know how to make a correct sentence as our friend Bruno showed us. Second of all, you should not ever talk badly about a dead person. President Reagan, which you misspelled, helped our country and showed true patriotism. You should go to hell for saying "fuck Regan." You should never curse a dead peron. Like I said, learn your history, fag. Go back to school. Your teachers must have been idiots. Everybody is against your beliefs. Leave our country you son of a bitch. We don't want your kind here in America, the land of the free, and the home of the brave. Cowards are not brave.
Posted by: chuck on June 13, 2004 10:03 PMAmen
Posted by: Bruno on June 14, 2004 12:01 AM**bows**
Still, the flaming! Almost intelligent. Between the two of you, I know who bought us, who funded our 'revolution', the 'revolutions' in france, northern africa, italy, spain... I love our country BUT - i do not think that it is unpatriotic to expect our 'elected' (dubiously) officials to tell the truth, and to do things that are right and good. When one person decieves another, or many - I am impressed with your ability to choose to insult and try to attack my statements using things that are not related to the topic. I may as well say to you, sirs 'Your mother is a retired actress. She worked in low-budget pornographic films from the age 14 to 76.' Do you like it when you are lied to? Do you feel like you are being represented? I am a young person, and i was not born into multimilion dollar trust funds and bank accounts. As such, I am worried that there will come a time when i will be 'obsolete' and consequently ground up and fed to an oil tycoon. You will have to make more improvements in the formation of your argument if you expect me to write again. take care, gang
Posted by: iixv on June 14, 2004 12:50 AMDear iixv,
Well well well, we're stepping up the quality level are we now? Your transformation from a ranting lunatic screaming fuck every three seconds to a semi-coherent savant is quite impressive! But you've failed to grasp one thing, in addressing things that you claim had no relation to the topic, we, or I rather, have accomplished the thing that was set out to do from the beginning. I did not seek to directly refute your comments, or what could be deciphered from it, although I think you were refuted in there, my main pupose was to discredit you as a person, harsh as it may sound. To portray you as a ranting lunatic, which it is still my belief that you are, would thus discredit you and you're comments negating any power you might have built up. I think you'll agree, since you tried the same thing yourself in your last comment, that this method is easily as, and probably more, effective as refuting your actual comments.
Also, your continued threats of refusing to write should we choose not to "improve our arguements" is not amusing. The goal of this message board is not to coerce you into responding to it. If you would to fall over from your chair, curl up and die at this very moment, my life would be that much better for it. So don't think that you're punishing us by refusing to write, rather! you give us the power, you let us win by defeating yourself.
Posted by: Bruno on June 14, 2004 02:35 AM=======================
Sorry pal, I couldn't just let this one slide. You do realize that Fascism and Capitalism are both forms of government and being so, cannot be used together to describe someone - Bruno
No, i did not realize that capitolism was a form of government. In school, they taught me that it was an economic system. Also, popular dictionaries agree::
cap·i·tal·ism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (kp-tl-zm)
n.
An economic system in which the means of production and distribution are privately or corporately owned and development is proportionate to the accumulation and reinvestment of profits gained in a free market.
and i think that you got your info about fascism wrong too..
Main Entry: fas·cism
Pronunciation: 'fa-"shi-z&m also 'fa-"si-
Function: noun
Etymology: Italian fascismo, from fascio bundle, fasces, group, from Latin fascis bundle & fasces fasces
1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
ok, looking at that definition, please tell me how we are not a fascist state. Keep in mind the fact that now 3 members of the executive branch have done a great deal to undermine the purpose that was intended when our government was created with 3 equal branches. take executive privledge, tie the hands of congress and the judicial branch and what do you have? an autocratic government!
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the religiously fundamental part I'm not gonna touch, thats your opinion (wrong as it is). - bruno
what do you call it when our president trys to make it so that gay people can not marry and when he then defends it with quotes like, "Marriage is a sacred institution between a man and a woman" - (http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/02/04/gay.marriage/). That sounds EXACTLY like some religious fundimentals (and fuck my spelling, so what, i am lazy and dont fix mistypes).
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so basically as long as we keep voting for our president, keep even a hint of democracy in our country, and keep our 'states rights' we will never be fascists; as much as you might like us to be - bruno
we voted for president, about 4 years ago. the majority of people did NOT vote for bush, but he still won. He keeps doing things that a majority of the public does not agree with. don't touch that one.
State rights - again, bush fucks state rights with (for example) his gay marriage bill. that means, no matter what state you are in, no matter what laws your state has about gay marriage, it doesnt matter. the federal government does not recognize the marriage between a woman and a woman, even if the state does. state rights?
some of the things that i say, i say all the more strongly so that some of the less fortunate (in the way of free-thinking) will maybe get a little shocked, may start to think a bit. No, we do not yet live in a police state, but have you read the frickin 400 page Patriot act? Do you know the things that exist in it's amendment? I have never read the farenheit book and the 1974 or whatever it is did not interest me very much. Please do some research and stop making so many assumptions.
I only chose one of your responses to (respond to). I will pick a different one next time i have some free time for friendly banter.
I am a bit of a lunatic, and a fanatic. i am even a patriot. My purpose in posting on this board (george bush is awesome) my opinions (that he his not), and some support for my opinions (he and many in his cabinent seem to be very shady people who - for my well being and happiness with our government, as well as the well being and happines of countless others, and in the name of peace, liberty and truth NEEDS to be taken out of office. THank you for your time and considerate remarks, bruno. I dont build up power, i kill children. -- ah!~ heart attack! ahhhh.. .
(*Dead*)
"we voted for president, about 4 years ago. the majority of people did NOT vote for bush, but he still won." You need to check your facts on that one. In order for a president to be elected, he must get the majority of the vote. Like chuck said, you need to go back to school. I am still not done with school, and do not understand what all of your fascism and capitalism statements, however I do know that we are not an aristocracy, as you tried to tell us. We are a democracy. You keep telling people to get their facts straight. You are the one that needs to get your facts straight.
Posted by: 67 on June 14, 2004 09:13 PM"No, we do not yet live in a police state, but have you read the frickin 400 page Patriot act? Do you know the things that exist in it's amendment?"
Yes, actually I do. The patriot act is used for locating terrorists and keeping the homeland safe. As I keep telling you, leave our country if you dont like it, because once agian without a patriot act we have a high chance of being attacked by terrorists again. Check your damn facts. The patriot act is used to protect you. Read this statement from the first line of the patriot Act:
"To deter and punish terrorist acts in the United States and around the world, to enhance law enforcement investigatory tools, and for other purposes."
to the first sir (67):
I'm not even going to bother flaming you. Just look up the electoral process. (http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:5q8mv6cj20MJ:fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/28090.pdf+electoral+colleges+michigan&hl=en is a good place to start, it was written to explain our voting process to congress)
It's like this: our Divided States are further divided into voting regions, called electoral colleges. This means that when you vote, your vote is not counted for or against the person that you actually vote for. It is countend for or against the representative of that person who presides over your electoral college. The electoral colleges in each state come together and 'vote' on which candidate the state's electoral votes will go to. In the end, they count up these electoral votes, not actual vote (aka 'popular vote'). It means that a great many people's votes are disregarded. For example: consider Fakestate. For simplicity, lets pretend that Fakestate is divided into 3 electoral colleges: the first has 10,000 citizens, the 2nd 100,000 and the third 1,000,000. The first section has 5,001 republican popular votes, teh second has 50,001 republican popular votes, and the third has 500,001 democratic popular votes.
That means that it was 54,998 to 500,001 and democrats carry that state. Now, consider another state next to the first state. For simplicity pretend that it is divided into 3 electoral colleges: the first has 10,000 citizens, the 2nd 10,000 and the third 100,000. The first section has 7,001 republican popular votes, teh second has 5,000,001 democratic popular votes, and the third has 5,001 democratic popular votes. That means that the republicans win this state. HOwever, if all of the actual votes of people had been added together, teh republicans would have won both states. This is sort of what happened in florida, to the democrats (not that gore would have done any better - it is the moral of the thing). So, your vote doesnt really go to the president. So what. See, congress was elected like this, too until sometime in the early 20th century, when the populists were pushing for the man to quit raping them. I (believe) it is in the 19th (if not, its in the 17th) amendment to the constitution changed the election of congressmen and women so that they are elected by popular (the peoples') votes, not by the other method. They (populists) and others since have pushed to have the president elected in the same way (so that situations like the 'florida scandal' of 2000 can be avoided), but have thus far been largely unsucessful.
And to you, sir (chuck) about the patriot act - I have read it, bugger. Read it. Look at how it has been used. Read it again here: please, and actually read it, ok?>>
http://www.epic.org/privacy/terrorism/hr3162.html
and check these out, while you are at it..
http://mtprof.msun.edu/Spr2002/BAWRart.html
Think long and hard.. They say terrorist, but their definition of terrorist includes and is not limited to DISSIDENTS. The 'patriot act' has been used already to violate the privacy of innocent american citizens, to have homes searched and people arrested without warrants - had people detained for months without the right to talk to a lawyer, or to their families. Yes, it may have caught a real terrorist, but it has largely fucked our civil liberties. Seriously, are we such babies that we need a big governement breathing down our necks? They 'had knowledge' of sept 11, and it still happened. They have stopped other things since then, without the patriot act. In fact, it is not difficult to find quotes from prominent members of the cia, the fbi and the administrative branch of our govt who say that this act does nothing more than (during a hunt in haystack for a needle) pile more hay on the stack. Did you know, about 3 weeks ago, our fbi (using information collected using 'patriot warfare' methods) arrested a man who was playing an online game? The game had material in it that made reference to terrorist acts, and they had been monitoring it's 'progress' with the civil-liberty slicing tool 'patriot act' for months. Damn, what an embarassment. Aside from that, it is just a self-serving tool to keep everyone in check. POLICE STATE POLICE STATE. See, i do not fancy myself a smart person, but i do think that i could have written a better patriot act; one that actually helped to catch terrorists and did not just do away with a few of our rights (1st, 2nd to name two) -- read it please, and explain to me how it is not a self serving tool - I would rather not compile a list of the shady things - they are there for all to see, if you ACTUALLY READ IT.
Thank you for your time and for your patience.
Posted by: iixv on June 15, 2004 11:44 AM"And to you, sir (chuck) about the patriot act - I have read it, bugger. Read it. Look at how it has been used. Read it again here: please, and actually read it, ok?>>"
Yeah i read it you idiot and unless you are a suspected terrorist, it does not hurt you. If you are a terrorist, then you deserve not to have any rights you deserve to die. If you think that what happened on 9/11 is ok, where terrorists hijacked planes, then lets trake away the patriot act. You could not write a better one no matter what you say. You are just and idiot. You never prove any of your facts, and the website you gave me to show that the voting was rigged is bullshit. Show me some real sources. In order for a president to be elected, he must be voted in by the people of the United States. It's called a democracy. I think its about tiem you go back to your 4th grade history class and learn about our country and what a democracy is. And im pretty sure that I speak for all of us when I tell you to stop saying that our country is not a democracy. Thank you for your time and please come up with some believeable sources for your information, such as CNN, FOX, or MSNBC insetad of sites such as "epic.org"
Chuck you doofus, you can't strip away everyone's rights because someone *might* be a terrorist. I'm sure you've heard the famous Ben Franklin quote: "They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security."
Posted by: tlack on June 15, 2004 06:51 PM"If you are a terrorist, then you deserve not to have any rights you deserve to die." is what i said. Notuice that i did not say "If you *might* be a terrorist, then you deserve not to have any rights you deserve to die." Pay attention dumbass it was a simple statement. And by the way if the government suspects that a person is a terrorist, then they need to be confined and questiond where they may have to loose a few rights for the protection of this great nation. It is not too bad to loose a few rights to make sure that our great nation stays protected. Besides, if you are not a terrorist then you get to go back to your normal life. I, along with many others, think it is good for our government to take these precautions. If you, tlack, knew personally some of thevictims of the 9/11 attacks and saw how badly many families were hurt, then you too woukld support our government in taking these precautions so that we do not have to worry about future attacks
Posted by: chuck on June 15, 2004 10:17 PMYou did not read it, if you think it targets only 'terrorists' - it targets dissidents and anyone else. it has ALREADY been used to violate civil rights of average, non-terrorist citizens. If your stupid ass had actually checked the link @ epic.org, you sick little bumbler, you would have seen that all the link is (is) the patriot act, in full. That's all, no commentary - just the only place that ive been able to find the document. I have to believe that you are still in middle school, to see you personally attack me so often, to hear you spout the bullshit and make no real point. you say things like, 'go to history class', 'gimme quotes from nbc' - you address nothing, even the fact that I have presented quite a compelling argument. Grow the fuck up, get some balls and quit spouting the shit that you pick up on the radio between your brittney spears songs. you want some 'credible' proof - (in case your lazy ass is too stupid to actually confirm that you are correct before spouting shit, and need to have the 'proof' presented first, directly to you so that you dont have to do your own research to keep from looking like a stupid ass) --
lol here's one from cnn that explains why part of the fucker was deemed unconstitutional - http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/01/26/patriot.act.ap/index.html
-- also try -
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/07/21/attack/main564189.shtml
or
http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/07/21/justice.civil.liberties/
or
http://progressivetrail.org/articles/031111Cassel.shtml
or
http://xpat.org/mt-comments.cgi?entry_id=108
or
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/07/30/attack/main565875.shtml
or
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,105786,00.asp
or
http://www.detnews.com/2003/metro/0307/31/c01-232680.htm
or
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=%5CNation%5Carchive%5C200304%5CNAT20030403b.html
or
or how about -
http://www.veteransforpeace.org/ACLU_president_101703.htm
with headline 'ACLU president is fearful of Patriot Act abuses' - do you even know who the ACLU is you numb fuck?
and if those are beyond your reading/comprehension level, check this out: it was taken from a forum that can be found @
http://www.e-thepeople.org/article/31906/view?viewtype=best&skip=10
Refer to Pat Act Allegations please....
posted 05/15, by Osborn F. Enready (viewed : 117)
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The finalization of the Executive Power Grab:
http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtm...
http://www.freedomsite.net/93-549.htm
http://www.city-net.com/~davekle/warp...
Indisputable Proof of the illegality of the Income Tax as practiced (video link)
http://64.239.2.29/861/ (After clicking on the link, click on "What the law says" and it will show you the entire collection of evidence in a clear and easy to understand format. Also provides government responses.)
Allegations of Pat Act Abuses...
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/0...
http://freetotravel.org/cid.html
http://www.gamersnook.com/blog/archiv...
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines...
http://www.russoforpresident.com/issu...
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/10/nat... (need to register Free with NY Times to read that one)
LILO Leasing scandal tidbits:
http://www.buzzle.com/editorials/2-26...
http://finance.senate.gov/press/Gpres...
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontli...
http://www.uhuh.com/taxstuff/bignotax...
Please Reference this site, for the issue of Prohibition and its conclusions in Hindsight;
http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/L...
D.A.R.E. Program Report:
http://civilliberty.about.com/gi/dyna...
ACTUAL FACTS about the War on Drugs:
http://www.drugwarfacts.org/
"Any man who would trade a measure of freedom, for a measure of security, DESERVES NEITHER!"
Please, quit acting like a dumbass and put fort some real, thought provoked talk - dont just argue for the sake of it and for got sakes if you do at least look up the words that you use, or verifiy that i am wrong before you say 'you are wrong' and expect THAT to stand.
THank you, Tlack for your helpful, though somewhat short interjection :))
If you only knew the extreme measures that terrorist organizations (namely Al Queda) were going to kill Americans perhaps some of you would wakeup. So do this: EDUCATE YOURSELFS with some correct information…………
http://www.usdoj.gov/ag/trainingmanual.htm
......and maybe then might you get a glimpse of some of the insight that is provided to our President!
So what does this have to do with our invading Iraq under false pretenses, our president abusing his executive privileges or with the fact that his policies tend to favor the rich and trample on the poor? What about our civil rights? Since 33, the executive branch has been enjoying many of the rights that the leaders of monarchies enjoy. We got bought out by the Scottish masons and some other wealthy investors during the 'American revolution', we got bought out by someone during the civil war, and then we were all numbered and sold in the 'industrial revolution'. 'Free trade', 'open markets' and such are basically taking money out of the hands of Americans and putting it in the hands of other oppressive regimes, so that a few people on top can net a little more each year. Our so-called president and his office spit out propaganda like the al Qaeda training manual, about all kinds of things that are meant to scare the hell out of people, and they do. What are we, a nation of pussies? Are we so weak that we will each hide beneath the skirts of a mother who pisses on us constantly? Originally, there was to be no tax. Then, there was to be a flat-tax. Now, the poor people pay the rich people's taxes. It was originally intended that people should be allowed to form militias, to bear weapons so that in the event that our federal government became too powerful and went crazy or became corrupt or defunct, we could defend ourselves. SO many things that we take for granted as being part of our 'freedom', along with many things that some just can't understand are being slowly sucked of the things that make them what they are. What is left is a shell that LOOKS like the original, but it is hollowed out and weak. I agree, the information in these manuals is quite shocking. Did you happen to read where they came from? May as well said, 'these were found on a Turkish prostitute who said 'fuck the police'' - - . - Our department of justice is a fucking joke, if you disagree then you are wiser than me, or a fucking idiot. Our 'homeland protection agency' or whatever has arrested more non-violent drug offenders than it has 'terrorists'; already, Nancy Regan’s 'war on drugs' has it so that something like 50-60% of prison space is occupied by non-violent drug offenders. Gay people are not allowed to be married because it is 'not natural' (and because the fucking insurance companies had a fit). This was supposed to be the 'land of the free, home of the brave' - where you could go if you wanted to do your own thing (without hurting others, of course). Our president is directly (well, a couple hops, but still, from same family) related to the royalty of England (nothing with it, but its strange that he won without getting elected, and then we and England were the only two bastards to go poke our dicks in the deserts of the holy land). IMHO
oh.. also something id like to add to my post, to anyone who is listening and who is like, 'hey, it sucks what is happening to our country'..
first, a little 'quote' (copy and paste, if you the owner gets mad, I'm sorry but fuck you)...
This is a little snippet about a movie but I laughed when I read it, thinking about this board. PLEASE go and see the movie "FAHRENHEIT 9/11". I have not seen it yet, but I have read about it and.. it is a statement, and it is information and it is alternative media and you really should check it out my friends.... I'll be there!
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0361596/
rednor60
USA
Date: 15 June 2004
Summary: Watch the movie first?
It's amusing to read the ravings of these ditto heads condemning a movie they haven't even seen. The language used resembles the fascist ideology used by the Nazi's to take power in Germany. Read your history, while we still have books. Look up the facts, while we still have access to them. The Saudi's do own the Bush Family. All Michael Moore has done is compile information that has been around for years, it's nothing new. All these ditto heads do is listen to 10 second sound bites from Rush, O'Reilly, and Hannity, and take those as facts and not do the research, which is the right of every ditto head. I have every intention of practicing and defending my First Amendment right, and supporting Michael Moore on June 21...while we still have a constitution...And what's up about giving the movie an "R" rating????
dumbfuck welcome to america nobody owns our president
Posted by: tlack on June 24, 2004 11:08 PMHa! That has to be one of the best quotes ive seen in quite some time! BRAVO BRAVO
Qui non est hodie cras minus aptus erit - He who is not prepared today will be less so tomorrow. (Ovid)
I love George W B with all my heart. BUSH/CHENEY 2004! :o)
Posted by: Katie on July 28, 2004 04:38 PMLet's talk gay marriage. Marriage is a legal contract between two consenting adults. Marriage is not a religious institution, it is a legal institution. There should be no distinctions drawn between the gender of the persons getting married and the argument that people will start marrying animals is absurd and certainly not a logical inference.
Secondly, persons enter into marriage for a variety of reasons. Marriage allows a couple to reap estate and income tax benefits that only a spouse is entitled to. Marriage allows a family unit to legally exist. Marriage allows two persons to enter into a legally recognized Union thereby entitling the partners to all of the same benefits/treatment that heterosexual couples are entitled to.
I am tired of the argument that gay marriage will destroy the sanctity of marriage in the U.S. We have already done that. Our divorce rate is 50%. The infidelity rate is 40%. People don't take marriage seriously in the first place, let gays be just as miserable as the rest of us in marriage.
Posted by: LawGrrrl on August 5, 2004 07:43 PM
i just did a school assign on reasons not to vote for bush.
George W. Bush wants your vote. He wants it so badly that he is willing to put the educations of the children of America at risk in order to impress you with his concern for their education. He also wants the votes and money of the super-wealthy, so he will help them save more money in one year than the average American makes in two. He also wants the votes and money of people who stand to gain by damaging and destroying our environment, so he is willing to pass laws allowing them to do so. Today, I am going to focus on these three things: education, taxes, and environment. There are many reasons to remove Bush from the White House. I chose these specific reasons because I believe that they are symptomatic of his decision and policy making, and because they are not as well-know as some of his more spectacular mistakes.
To the president’s credit, I will admit that he and his administration have done some good things. No one was excluded from the tax cuts, and I think that it’s possible that they had good intentions in reforming the education system. I have stopped short of calling the president a liar, and a sneak. However, there is an overwhelming body of evidence that does just that, available to anyone who cares to research it. The purpose of this speech is to inform you of a few of his questionable actions. Hopefully, this speech will contribute to your deciding to vote against Bush. If it does not, I hope that it at least inspires you to do some research of your own before voting this man back into office.
The Citizens for Tax Justice and the Children’s Defense Fund did a study on the tax cuts that President Bush has put into effect. It is from this study that I got the following information. It is true that these tax cuts give money back to everyone in the United States; It is likely that you have already saved money because of them. For the next 6 years, all Americans will continue to have lower taxes than they did before President Bush came into office. In 2001, the top 1% most wealthy Americans received 7.3% of our nation’s tax cut. It is strange that the richest people get a disproportionately large cut, but not surprising. What I find surprising is that, by the year 2010, the top 1% will be receiving 51.8% of our tax cuts. During the course of the Bush tax cut plans, 99% of our country will experience a 44% cut in our tax cuts, so that the top 1% can save an extra 82 thousand dollars a year. To put this in perspective: in 2001, the top 1% saved an average of about $3,000 in taxes, which is more than the other 99% saved, combined. In 2010, the top 1% will save an average of about $85,000, while the other 99% will save about $6,000. I realize that in portraying this as a bad thing, I am advocating a flat tax, which our country has not had for quite some time. Do you really think it is fair that the richest people pay a smaller percentage of their money to taxes than the other 99% of us?
Included in these statistics is the Estate Tax, or Death Tax. You may have heard of this tax before. If so, it is likely that you’ve heard a slanted description of it. Those who stand to loose fund negative advertisements portraying the estate tax as a simple tax that is applied to everyone who dies. They strike fear into the hearts of family-run business owners, and people who hope to leave something for their loved ones when they pass. In this way, they have rallied a good number of easily fooled people to protect their wealth. I remember hearing commercials that said things like, ‘it is not right to tax someone for dying’, or ‘why should those people who inherit their family’s wealth have to pay more taxes on it’. In truth, only 2% of the United States is affected by this tax. Specifically, this tax applies only to estates worth more than one million dollars. Bush’s tax cuts phase the estate tax out by the year 2010. Currently, it is set to be reinstated once the tax plan has ended in 2010, but there is a well-funded movement to permanently abolish this tax.. I can understand why America’s super-wealthy would want to keep Bush in office, but I don’t think that the rest of us should be very impressed with his tax cuts. The administration has made it out to sound like they have given the all of the American people a lot of money back. They have given a lot of money back, but a disproportionate amount of it is going right back to the rich.
The National Resource Defense Council has an excellent, well-documented collection of things that Bush has and his administration have done that have serious, negative impacts on our environment. I used their website to find more information about these things. George Bush claims to be a friend to the environment. Since just 2001, he has bent or broken many rules that were intended to protect our environment, and passed new laws supporting disregard for our environment. I am only looking at his Presidential career, but rest assured that this is a pattern that can be traced back through his governorship of Texas and even further. Many of the companies that stand to gain from these laws are some of the biggest monetary contributors to the Bush cause. For example, since 1999, Bush has received at least 6 million dollars in donations from energy companies alone. When Bush came into office, a new standard for the amount of arsenic in drinking water had just been set, after 40 years or so. The mining industry lost money because of this standard; they had to limit their contamination of water supplies. The mining industry was also one of the larger contributors to Bush’s campaign. Oddly enough, one of the things that he did during his first year in office was to remove the new standards for arsenic in our drinking water, claiming that there is not enough evidence to convince him that arsenic causes cancer.
Many large companies are benefiting from relaxed or abolished laws governing their impact on the environment, while blissfully polluting the world we live in. Our national forests are being plundered for lumber now that Bush has passed legislature that he presents to the American people as being designed to control forest fires. A unique ecosystem in Alaska stands to be destroyed permanently for the sake of five year’s worth of oil, if Bush gets his way. The current administration is trying to remove government imposed standards for nuclear weapons research and development plants, leaving the standards to be set by contractors who build the plants. The list of crimes that our president has committed against our environment and our safety is quite long. There are a surprising number of industries, known for their monetary support to Bush that are reaping the benefits of his mistakes. The current administration seems to be concerned with profit over people and environment. If you only read their public statements, you may not believe this. However, if you do a little bit of research into exactly what sort of things our President has been up to since he has been in office, you may come to realize that he is not interested in protecting our environment. He seems to be much more interested in getting votes and getting kickbacks from big businesses.
No Child Left Behind. It sounds great, doesn’t it? Though it is true that Bush increased spending on education by 49% during his reign, he is responsible for No Child Left Behind. If you hear the administration’s description of it, this is a great boon to the education system. It creates standards that are supposed to make every child learn. In reality, they are experimenting on children. No Child Left Behind is a federal reform to change the way that children are educated across the country. It is untested, was put into effect too quickly to work properly, and is structured to damage the education system in America. While Bush has increased the education budget, it must be kept in mind that many state economies went even further downhill when he got into office. Most states have record deficits; many have already cut funding to public schools by so much that the new money is just a drop in the bucket. The average school is going to end up with even less money because of this policy.
When No Child Left Behind was put into effect, schools were judged by the new rules without being given time or resources to fit the criteria for increased funding. Under this act, schools are given special funding if they get above a certain score. The scores that schools receive are based on the scores of their students. The scores that students receive are based on raw reading and math scores. In order to fit the criteria, many less well funded schools will be focusing mainly on math and reading, in order to get funding. It does not matter if the students know why we fought the civil war, or where Canada is so long as they pass the math and reading tests. There is no gray area, or scale with which they are judged; either they pass or fail. If a school fails, they do not get as much funding. If a student fails three years in a row, their parents can move them to another school. The school that they move to will have to accept the student, even if they are already overpopulated and they will not get any extra funding for the new student. Teachers who have been at their profession for a long time may be required to stop teaching, go back to college and jump through a certain number of hoops before they will be considered ‘highly qualified’, and allowed to teach again.
No Child Left Behind does not only affect primary education. The money that Bush gives to primary and secondary education, he is trying to take from higher education funding, such as Perkins Grants, which provided $1.19 billion dollars to higher education in 2003. State and Community Colleges will also experience state budget cuts due to so much money being diverted to pass the primary and secondary school tests. With so many states already in debt, No Child Left Behind leaves them with even less money to fund higher education. It may be more adequate to call this plan, ‘Most of the children of those who are not rich left behind’. I don’t know, he may even believe that this policy will help educate America’s youth. Many people, including myself think that it was a poorly constructed plan put into action to get more votes. Flowery speech may hide the real workings of this plan, but only time will tell if our president made yet another mistake at the expense of American citizens.
Everyone makes mistakes and bad decisions from time to time. Our president seems to make bad decisions for the sake of money and votes. I do not have the time to cover more of the many mistakes that he has made as commander in chief, but rest assured, there is a disturbing number of them. Our president should be held to the highest standards, both in word and in deed. Someone who makes as many mistakes as this man has no place running what is supposed to be the most powerful country in the world. Bush reformed taxes, giving a large amount of the cuts back to the ultra-wealthy. He has disregarded our environment, as well as laws that have been put into place to protect it time and again. He created a monster called No Child Left Behind which is likely to leave many children in our country even less educated than they are now. These are just a few examples of reasons not to vote for George Bush this November.
I ask you to ignore the words that our administration uses to describe it’s actions, and look at the actions they take. As they say, talk is cheap. Please do not go and vote for George Bush before really taking a look at what he has done to and for this country. In fact, I encourage you to vote for John Kerry. The third party doesn’t have a chance this time; The only way we are going to get Bush out of the White House is by replacing him with John Kerry. Please, look behind the attack campaigns, the commercials and newscasts designed to make our President look like the man that he should be. Don’t let the media fool you. Read his policies, not his descriptions of them. Look at who his investors are, and the decisions he makes. Be informed, and make your vote count.
SOURCES:
Citizens for Tax Justice (2002). Bush tax cuts after 2002. Retrieved July 30, 2004
http://www.ctj.org/html/gwb0602.htm
Third World Traveler (2002). Death tax deception. Retrieved July 30, 2004
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Economics/DeathTax_Deception.html
Natural Resource Defense Council (2004). Drinking water. Retrieved July 30, 2004
http://www.nrdc.org/bushrecord/water_drinking.asp
Natural Resource Defense Council (2004). Endangered Species. Retrieved July 30, 2004
http://www.nrdc.org/bushrecord/wildlife_species.asp
Natural Resource Defense Council (2004).National Parks. Retrieved July 30, 2004
http://www.nrdc.org/bushrecord/wildlife_parks.asp
Natural Resource Defense Council (2004). The Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. Retrieved July 30, 2004
http://www.nrdc.org/bushrecord/wildlife_arctic.asp
Jamie McKenzie, Ed.D (2004). Gambling with children. Retrieved July 30, 2004
http://nochildleft.com/2003/jan03.html
ONE GOD ONE MARKET ONE TRUTH ONE CONSUMER (- rage against the machine)
how do you like thAt?
I like President Bush's style and politics because he's a down home, straight shooter kind of guy, transparent and easy to figure out-rare traits in a politician these days.He will continue to do what he thinks is right regarding of his lack of popularity arond the world.
In spite of all the hatred, we remain the most forgiving nation on the planet. when eartquakes wreck lives and communities, we are there with blankets, water, search and rescue team. When countries are openly attacked, we are there to defend the people and help them take back their country. When a country is faced with famine, we are there to face down the warlords responsible-- those were Americans soldiers being dragged around the streets, and I'm repaid with a snicker from the North. Kosovo, Rwanda, we were there. Then came 9/11. The world saw the devastation that terror can bring, and it stood up and did nothing.
Let's be clear: at least Goerge W Bush stood up for what was right. I wish the same could be said with the negative commentors in this board. This constant anti-Americanism is mindless and i can't help but wonder if it's the final gasps of a nation that has lost its character and relevance.
We sit nice and cozy at home watching our favourite American reality shows, drive our American cars to our jobs at the American companies we work for, in order to pay for our vacations to florida or Las Vegas.Yet we think it's a good idea to keep telling Goerge W Bush and his government how much we hate them. We put them down for their enormous defence budget, yet we feel safe in our beds at night in the knowledge that they'll be there if anything should happen, but still put it down every chance we get.
It is enduring shame that other countries stood sneering on the sidelines (like Canada, Russia), content to let Saddam's torture and murder continue because we didn't like Bush's atitude. Oh, but can bid on the Iraq rebuilding contracts and make some money-please, oh, please, please, please
Posted by: lewis on August 12, 2004 05:00 PMI couldn't stand to see a conservative get the last word in on this. As far as what has been argued so far, a lot of stupid things have been said. Perhaps the worst mistake people have made is believing that their opinion is the only correct opinion. Bush supporters (and not necessarily ALL Bush supporters but a great deal of them) tend to fall back on the same attacks against liberals, either they are uneducated, gay or pansies. Also many liberals have been told to that they should move to Iraq if they hate America. The worst thing this government has done to our population is to make it ok to hate anyone who has a different opinion. I admit that many liberals hate as well (I for example hate Bush but only because I see him as the greatest obstacle to my future). I'm not gay, I am a college educated man and I am certainly not a pansy. That being said, the things I can not stand about the Bush regime are its manipulation of the population and its use of fear to control the country. The difference between former presidents and the current president is that under former presidents the American dream seemed like a real thing. What I mean by that is that before Bush took power, it seemed like it was actually possible that you could achieve whatever you dreamed of; now with the worst defficit in history (the Bush regime has put a spin on this to make it seem like a good thing, do your research before you scream your opinion) nothing seems possible. Even middle class families are feeling the squeeze of hard times. Unemployment is at a high, poverty is at a high, the gap between poor and rich is widening all the time, the economy is in shambles, our national relations are all destroyed (besides England AKA USA Jr.) Nothing about the world makes sense anymore. Bush's fight against gay marriage (and don't try to tell me he supports it, he supported an amendment to ban gay marriage) is sickening. How he can knowingly deprive a certain segment of the population the basic rights that any other human being holds is beyond me. If you say homosexuality is a disease or that gay marriage will lead to the downfall of hetero marriage you are obviously and idiot. When was the last time that a Jew marrying a Christian caused all Christians to marry Jews? Since interracial marriage has been legal in the US has interracial marriage stopped white people from marrying other white people and black people from marrying other black people? Since gay marriage was legalized in MA has the state started implementing mandatory gay marriages. The nerve of straight people to stand up and deprive gays of the right to marriage while no gay spokesperson has ever spoken out against the right of staight people to marry amazes me. Those of you who say that the bible forbids homosexuality and therefore it should be banned may be correct that the Christian bible forbids homosexuality but not everyone in this country is a Christian and even moreso, we have such a thing as separation of church and state in this country. Just because the bible forbids something does not mean the government should make a law against it. I could argue forever against the many faults of our government and never convince some of you so let me make a few things clear. You are not more patriotic than me just because you cling to whatever the president says. You are not tougher than me just because your dad or friend or cousin is serving in Iraq. It is possible to support the troops and hate the commander in cheif; I don't want anyone in Iraq to die, I want the troops to be brought home now before another soldier dies, I would gladly walk up and shake the hand of a veteran of this war and thank him or her for his or her duty in protecting me. On the other hand, I want Bush out of office. I want him out now because if he serves another four years I do not know how much of America will remain. You might point out that I am lucky to have the freedoms to say what I have just said. This is true, I am lucky that the Bill of Rights exists and that the 1st Ammendment gives me the right to speak my mind freely. What I will point out though is that George W Bush did not write the Bill of Rights, he had nothing to do with it, he has nothing to do with my freedom to say these things. In fact, Bush worked actively in the days after 9/11 to revoke my right to criticize him. You can pick apart my spelling and grammar, you call me uneducated but that is a lie, I didn't see anyone calling the people who's only response was "O yea? U R A FAG!!!!!!1" uneducated although they certainly are.
I would like everyone who opposes Bush to actually go vote this year to remove the worst man ever to be in power in America. Do not listen to Bush supporters exploiting 9/11, exploiting Ronald Regan, exploiting any other tragedy they can get their hands on. Most of all, do not be afraid.
Posted by: Mike W. on August 25, 2004 05:33 PMGeorge Bush sucks cock. Or at least wants to. The dumbest worst president in the entire history of the USA including Gerald Ford. The world laughs at all of us. How do you Bush supporters feel being the joke of the world. Wake up all of you stupid mother fXXXXXXXX! This administration represents pure evil. They are the exact opposite of Christian beliefs or any thing that resembles Christ or christian theology. Wake up.
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Bush is officially the worst president of all time.
First of all, see Farenheit 911, everyting i'm about to say is in that movie.
And Michael Moore is awesome.
Let's start at the beginning. Where'd the southern accent come from? Connecticut is in New England.
Second of all, great job flunking out of yale and out of the air force.
And after getting out of the air force, following daddy and going into oil where he ran all his crap into the ground.
But, oh yeah, who saved him? Right! That's his name. BIN LADEN!!!
So now Bush decides to go for president. He's not having too much luck with the oil.
Step 1) Cheat in Florida
-make sure your governor is your brother, another asshole
-make sure the vote counter was involved in your campaign
-make sure you strike democrats from the voting lists. Excuse? Oh, they're black. This country isn't for them.
-make sure your daddy's friends are the supreme court and they like you too
So now that he's president, what should he do?
Go on vacation for 42% of the time. Great idea! Let's also make a tax cut, and ignore a document that was brought right to his desk that said bin laden is going to attack. Yeah, real good stuff there.
Now it's September 11th. Good. Bush is sitting in a florida classroom and stays there for 15 minutes while the towers are falling. U-huh.
Now, all the sudden, Bush is the biggest fighter of terror of all time. Only, instead of going for Bin Laden, he goes to Mr. Terror expert the next day and says "Hey! I want to go to Iraq! Gimme an excuse"
Smart.
Then go to afghanistan after a month and miss bin laden several weeks late.
And how many soldiers were there? 11,000. Same number of policemenn in Manhattan right now.
Good, now for business.
How are we going to get iraq acceppted? Let's scare them!
Red, orange, red, yellow, orange, red...
Free country huh? Well, don't infiltrate peace groups, stop guys for talking about politics and listen to phone conversations.(Patriot act)
And how are we going to tighten up airports? Let's allow people to bring two lighters and six books of matches on planes.
But no more. That could be bad.
And definitely no breast milk.
Especially if it has been contaminated by mommy's lips.
And here's another one. Let's have seven troopers on duty in the entire state of Oregon at any given time. More? No, man. We don't have the money. Remember those tax cuts?
And now time for business.
Iraq.
They have weapons.
U-huh.
The UN sucks.
U-huh.
Freedom fries.
U-huh.
Only military targets.
U-huh.
They have terrorists.
Well don't flat-out lie. That's retarded. But I guess he didn't know any better.
(Oil)
How many soldiers dead now?
Well into the thousands.
And Iraqis?
More than 20,000.
Yup, they're much better off now. They're dead. No more suffering when you're dead.
And let's stay there, without anybody.
You forgot Tony Blair, you forgot Tony Blair!
And Iceland.
Oh! You forgot all five troops from Iceland.
And the coalition of the willing:
Palau
Costa Rica
Iceland
Romania
The Netherlands
And Australia and Britain came to save our sorry asses when they saw that the poor morons across the atlantic really didn't know any better.
Meanwhile...
Gay marriage in the constitution!
Right. It's important enough.
AND BEING GAY IS NOT A CHOICE!!!!!
Why don't they get their rights?
Let's have no straight marriage!
Yeah, great idea.
And don't forgot the tax cuts.
Bush sucks.
Thank you.
haha mother fuckerrrs bush just kicked ass today! Even got the popular vote...just leave the fuckin country if u dont liek it...mother fuckerrss haha dont u feel like idiots wasted all ur time on TV wiht bogus adds and spent all that money for nothing....hahahhahahahahahahha dont u feel dumbbb
Posted by: marines son on November 3, 2004 08:39 PMBush won because of ignorant, misinformed, close-minded idiots, such as you. Good day, sir or madam.
Today is a sad, sad day in American history. I am very disappointed with the citizens of our country.
Black people, white women, and young voters voted against this man. Half the country thought it was a football game.
If you tell me to leave this country because I don't agree with aspects of it, and because I voice these grievances then we have two different ideas of what America can and should be.
People came here to escape persecution. They came as slaves; they came as rich white men. They came to this Promised Land and killed its native people, for what? Countless have died, so that all of us on this mass of land can have rights and liberties taken away - so that one's religion can dictate the rules governing proper conduct. So that our leaders can lie to us and sell us to the highest bidder? NO! By virtue of the power that exists in the ability to question our government, we shape and refine its growth. Left to itself, any system falls upon itself. Vive la resistance!
The death knell....
iixv...
"Bush won because of ignorant, misinformed, close-minded idiots, such as you. Good day, sir or madam."
So your saying that the military, and everyone but a bunch of hippies and MTV junkies are ignorant fools? I think not. You need to stop being so dramatic. You have absolutely no evidence of any of your far-fetched and accusatory bullshit.
your so dumb it made me laugh! ;)
I don't think that i mentioned the military, or hppies or mtv junkies.. in fact, you may find that i said some rude things about mtv junkies before (if not on this blog, somewhere out there.. )
I wrote some things, and you come back with,
'so you are saying [insert all this crap that you made up'
I have absolutely no evidence? the paper i wrote and posted here is well researched and quite concise, i though. Dont be a stupid ass
I don't think that i mentioned the military, or hppies or mtv junkies.. in fact, you may find that i said some rude things about mtv junkies before (if not on this blog, somewhere out there.. )
I wrote some things, and you come back with,
'so you are saying [insert all this crap that you made up here]'
I say one thing, and you turn around and say that I said something else? LMAO _ --
I have absolutely no evidence? the paper i wrote and posted here is well researched and quite concise, i though. Dont be a stupid ass
FUCK BUSH in capitals!
And to that motherfucking marine that fought in iraq, choke on shit! I'd like to see you one on one you yellow excuse of men, couldn't make it in vietnam, can't fight like men you scum! You have no honor!
I'm just sorry for the americans that believe all the bullshit bush shoves into them. Poor asses!
Posted by: Matt on November 12, 2004 11:00 PMand that is a fact!
Posted by: Matt on November 12, 2004 11:01 PMWow Matt, you are an ignorant fool!
Posted by: HA on November 13, 2004 03:02 AMHEY YOU MOTHER FUCKER THAT JUST TOLD A MARINE TO CHOKE ON SHIT U CAN BURN IN HELL YOU FUCKING BASTARD. mARINES ARE REAL MEN, MEN WHO SERVE YOU AND KEEP YOU SAFE. hOW DARE YOU EVER TALK SHIT ABOUT THEM. I HOPE YOU DIE WITH SADDAM HUSSEIN YOU ISLAMIC HOMO. WHAT YOU DONT UNDERSTAND IS THAT EVERY SINGLE MARINE AND SOLDIER OUT THERE IS WILLING TO DIE FOR YOU, AND THEY DONT EVEN FUCKING KNOW YOU. THERE IS NO GREATER COURAGE THAN THAT. I DONT SEE YOU FIGHTING ANYWHERE FOR FREEDOM FOR ANOTHER COUNTRY, MUCH LESS FREEDOM FOR OUR COUNTRY. OUR MARINES HAVE HONOR AND CAN FIGHT BETTER THAN ANYBODY YOU KNOW. THEY CAN KICK YOUR MOTHER FUCKING ASS. LEAVE OUR COUNTRY AND GO LIVE WITH SADDAM HUSSEIN, MAYBE HE CAN RAPE U LIKE HE RAPED THE LITTLE INNOCENT GIRLS IN IRAQ. BURN IN HELL MOTHER FUCKER!!!
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Matt you are a little fucking pussy for talking shit about marines, i bet if u ever walked up to one in real life u would never have to balls to say that. its also funny how they risk their lives for the freedom of our country and u dont have any fucking respect for them, Also iixv is a little liberal pussy that cant get his facts straight and needs to learn basic spelling and grammar. i agree with everything that chuck and marineson have said. siemper fi
Posted by: wannabamarine on December 25, 2004 07:14 PMHey, fuck you buddy.
I do agree, that it is rude to make fun of the marines...
well, ---
actually, they are out there fighting so that some people can get rich, and so that we can spread the disease of capitalism across the world..
we are not in iraq for 'freedom' we are there to dominate their economy and destroy their culture.
fucking dittohead, im not even a liberal
it is stupid fucks like you, who make our country shit.
our armies can fight all they want, our country is full of asshole conservatives who think they know what is best for everyone else, and who insist on trying to impose their bullshit on the rest of the world.
FUCK BUSH
People came here to escape prosecution, and came here as slaves.
our country was built by slaves, the people who wrote our constitution wrote it with the mindset that slavery was ok,
a large part of the foundation of our country was founded on bullshit, and yet the masons keep the documents safe, and the schoolbooks keep us marching in a STRAIGHT line...
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I am fucking-damn sick of people telling me what i can and cant think, telling me shit like,
love it or leave it
fuck you.
lAND OF the free?
Land of the pussy dittohead assholes, is more like it.
fucking sheep, you are.
Im disgusted that asshole bush was put into office again.
This is not the land of the free.
This is not the land of the free.
This is not the land of the free.
This is not the land of the free.
Talk all you want about 'well, it is more free than this other country'
FUCK THAT
we are supposed to be all powerful, we are supposed to be um.. accepting of cultures, etc
but we are brainwashed from birth, we are born, we are told what we can think, we are taught to be ashamed for not thinking like everyone else.
do you remember all the people who made publications and such, who banded together against the british to win our freedom?
well, they lost. but their cause was just and we fight for the same cause.
we are not liberals, we are not conservatives, we are americans and it is our duty as americans to quit calling each other liberal and conservative, to quit bickering, get organized and DEMAND change.
it is assholes like you, who empower the monsters to do what they please in our name.
it is assholes like you, who are not willing to sacrifice their safe, pristine, FAKE world in order to fight for something that is bigger than any one of us alone.
if hte revolution does not start here, it will not start and humankind will kill itself.
a new kind of army, an army who refuses to kill for money, religion or GOVERNMENT
in the words of a very smart man who died for what he believed in, who did not die while killing people for oil...
When we let freedom ring, when we let it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and every city, we will be able to speed up that day when all of God's children, black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics, will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual, "Free at last! free at last! thank God Almighty, we are free at last!"
Oh, and fuck grammar, fuck spelling.
This is a blog man, get over it.
"I do agree, that it is rude to make fun of the marines...
well, ---
actually, they are out there fighting so that some people can get rich, and so that we can spread the disease of capitalism across the world.."
We have a lot to talk about u fuckin idiot...you dont know whit about the marine corps and our military. Where did you go to school? I bet you were homeschooled and your mommy told you all this shit while you were suckin her tit at night before you went to bed. Our marines fightto defend our country from terror and to help other p